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PlanetCrap Photography Thread 2009
March 9th 2009, 00:29 MSK by Milan Brezovský

Now that the spring is here, we've been lured outside by ubiquitous pheromones and a lack of good games to play, so we might as well take out our cameras and start talking about the mysterious art of stealing souls here. Other types of art are also acceptable, as long as there is some kind of stealing going on.
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#12 by CheesyPoof
2009-03-09 04:57:55
What are you guys talking about?

Right, Owen?

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#13 by m0nty
2009-03-09 05:05:45
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
LOL, I actually visited the MW link. That is the most retarded site I have seen this decade. Ng Yo, are you retarded? I think you are. Retard.
#14 by OwenButler
2009-03-09 05:29:06
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#12 by CheesyPoof

What are you guys talking about?

Right, Owen?

Did someone else say something?  I thought it was just you and me left on the site now!  Oh my.

#15 by OwenButler
2009-03-09 05:38:07
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#13 by m0nty

LOL, I actually visited the MW link. That is the most retarded site I have seen this decade. Ng Yo, are you retarded? I think you are. Retard.

I also visited that a few months ago.  Hilarious.  I love the forum with the one person having rants against the machine with himself.

#16 by OwenButler
2009-03-09 05:38:46
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
Public holiday today, so I might go out for a walk and try to take some shots with the new lens.

#17 by Ng Yo
2009-03-09 06:20:42
http://www.taxi583.com
monty you fat fuck..
go fish..

walk your stupid dog... or SOMETHING!!!!!

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#18 by m0nty
2009-03-09 06:22:20
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I don't have a fishing rod or a dog.

I don't have a retarded Web site like yours either, Mario.
#19 by G-Man
2009-03-09 07:42:17
Ng Yo is a genius.
#20 by gaggle
2009-03-09 07:51:11
Who? *high fives Cheesy and Owen*

"Common sense; it is so rare, it is a god damn superpower."
#21 by Ng Yo
2009-03-09 12:40:48
http://www.taxi583.com
monty, then you have a fist, right ??
so take your fist and show it up your stinki'n arse.. THEN put it in your dirty whore mouth and suck it off like you do your mom.

you ugly bearded fuck!!!!

ps: fuck all abbos!!!! dirty dog cunts!!!

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#22 by Ng Yo
2009-03-09 12:42:02
http://www.taxi583.com
shove

shove...... you dumb jive turkey....

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#23 by BobJustBob
2009-03-09 13:37:59
lol rage

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#24 by FoRmaT
2009-03-09 14:02:26
Now would be a cool time for forum pics.

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#25 by deadlock
2009-03-09 16:13:19
http://www.deadlocked.org/
OwenButler:
I purchased a new Lens the other day, a Canon 27-70.  It's love.  Heavy though.

I bought myself a 50mm prime the other day. f1.7. Manual focus though. On the plus side, I bought it secondhand for ~€50.

#26 by Jamie
2009-03-09 16:26:51
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
I love my f/1.4 50mm prime. It stays on my camera most of the time.

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#27 by m0nty
2009-03-09 17:12:34
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
FoRmaT (#24):
Now would be a cool time for forum pics.

Well played.
#28 by Ng Yo
2009-03-09 17:26:14
http://www.taxi583.com
monty, can i come over to your place for a bbq ??

you know i just jest around yeah ??

i'll bring the beer...


monty ???

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#29 by Ng Yo
2009-03-09 17:27:23
http://www.taxi583.com
fuck off format, you ape!!!

nobody here likes you.....

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#30 by Jamie
2009-03-09 17:32:03
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Okay, I have another Excel question for you guys since you all nailed my last one.

I have a 200x38 block of cells, each of which contains a formula. Right now the formulas contain relative references (e.g., "=IF(I3=2,1,0)") and I want to change them to absolute references (e.g., "=IF($I$3=2,1,0)") so I can sort the rows without mucking everything up.

I know how to use F4 to change the cells one at a time, but with 7,600 cells that's a massive pain. Can I select them all at once and make the change? Or some other workaround?

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#31 by m0nty
2009-03-09 17:32:30
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Now you just look pathetic, Mario. Have some self-respect, man.
#32 by FoRmaT
2009-03-09 17:54:17
nobody here likes you.....


First correct thing you ever said.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#33 by Dethstryk
2009-03-09 17:54:17
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Jamie - I think the only way to do that is to write up a macro. I saw a few on a Google search that might work.

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#34 by Jibble
2009-03-09 18:12:23
Depending on the complexity of the formulas, you could just do a search/replace for the formula contents.

Find What: =IF(I
Replace With: =IF($I$

I want to go to there.

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#35 by Jamie
2009-03-09 18:18:35
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Hrm. I could do that, but I'd still have to run it once for each column, which would be 200 times. Better than 7,600, though.

I did a clumsy workaround where I pasted the values to a blank worksheet, did my sorting and calculations, then copied those values back into the original worksheet. The numbers are right, but now I can't add data to the set without doing all that copy/paste action again.

I'll probably take Dethstryk's macro suggestion and figure out a macro at some point. I'll need to be able to periodically add rows of data to this thing over time.

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"It was a little hard to tell how bad I was bleeding on account of the salsa" -- Jibble
#36 by jjohnsen
2009-03-09 18:35:00
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#6 by OwenButler
Duh, 24-70, duh.

That's what I want for my walk around lens.  How fast is it?

#37 by jjohnsen
2009-03-09 18:42:31
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#26 by Jamie
I love my f/1.4 50mm prime. It stays on my camera most of the time.

Same.  I use it more than anything.  I was taking some studio shots of a baby on Saturday and I think out of the 100 I took, only 15 used a lens other than my 50mm.

I can't remember if I linked to these before, but my most recent stuff is from our vacation to San Diego.

The Beach

Surfers

The Wild Animal Park

#38 by OwenButler
2009-03-09 22:13:02
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
That's what I want for my walk around lens.  How fast is it?

Fast in the focusing sense or the light sense?  Both really.  F2.8 so it's plenty fast for low light or available light stuff.  You do pay for it in weight though, damn it's heavy and big!  The AF feels really solid and smooth too, like it locks in fast and doesn't jitter around like my old zoom lens.

#39 by jjohnsen
2009-03-09 22:26:23
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Light sense.  2.8 sounds perfect.  that must not be the lens I was looking at though, it's out of my price range.

#40 by Milan Brezovský
2009-03-09 22:27:18
http://uglycode.com
I've been eying Canon EOS 450D (the new "Digital Rebel", I guess?) with EF-S 18-55 IS (F3.5 - 5.6) a 55-250mm IS (F4.0 - 5.6) for around $1000. Of course, it will be a few months before I'll be again in a position to spend, and I'll probably buy a new PC first, but it's never too early to look around, I guess.

I think I'll just see how things work out with Brooke and how often we will get to have photography trips together, but I have a feeling I'll end up semi-impulsively buying some used Nikon with a bunch of equipment. Does anyone have an experience with cameras/lenses of both brands in entry-level DSLR category?
#41 by Jamie
2009-03-09 22:40:21
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
You can't go wrong with either Canon or Nikon. Those are the two leaders in the DSLR market right now. So if you go with one of their entry level cameras (I use a Canon Rebelxt myself) you'll have MANY options for expanding your system later, including used equipment and third party stuff. The main problem with going with anyone besides Canon or Nikon isn't so much the quality of the camera (they're all pretty much equally good at entry level), it's the availability of compatible equipment. That and the fact that many books, online guides, and even workshops are geared specifically for Canon and/or Nikon users.

So go try out both if you can to see which feels better in your hands. Then just find the best deal you can.

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"It was a little hard to tell how bad I was bleeding on account of the salsa" -- Jibble
#42 by Milan Brezovský
2009-03-09 23:05:45
http://uglycode.com
Thanks! I have Canon in high regard from all the positive opinions, but I can't say I've heard a bad thing about Nikon, either. As I might have mentioned, my current SLR (Zenit) is a pretty faithful copy of some Nikon from that era, so I thought I might be better used to Nikon. But you're right, I'll have to try them out to know for sure.
#43 by Shadarr
2009-03-09 23:20:56
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
I've been Nikon ever since I upgraded from my old Pentax K1000.  The only annoying thing was that niether the film camera I had nor my new D80 has a flash sync cable plug, so I had to get a hotshoe adapter.  But that's a pretty minor annoyance.  The D80 has a great interface, very quick to set up shots once you're used to the two wheels.

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#44 by jjohnsen
2009-03-09 23:32:51
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#40 by Milan Brezovský
I've been eying Canon EOS 450D (the new "Digital Rebel", I guess?) with EF-S 18-55 IS (F3.5 - 5.6) a 55-250mm IS (F4.0 - 5.6) for around $1000. Of course, it will be a few months before I'll be again in a position to spend, and I'll probably buy a new PC first, but it's never too early to look around, I guess.

I think I'll just see how things work out with Brooke and how often we will get to have photography trips together, but I have a feeling I'll end up semi-impulsively buying some used Nikon with a bunch of equipment. Does anyone have an experience with cameras/lenses of both brands in entry-level DSLR category?

I've had that camera for a couple of years.  It has no issues, though with Nikon I think you probably get more for your money at that price range.  If I would have done more research I probably would have bought the D80 or D90.  Not taking away from the Rebel which I love.  The low end Nikons handle low light better than the low end Canons, and the D90 which is about $200 more than the Rebel has HD video.  The D80 also feels more solid than my Rebel, it's a bit heavier and feels like less of a toy.  Lenses for Nikon are usually a bit more expensive than similar Canon versions.

After playing with my Rebel and the D80 that my Dad and brother bought, I'd say the D80 (and now D90) is probably better, though you pay a little more.  Now if you compare the D50 or D60, I might choose the Rebel over it.  Say Nikon D50/60 < Rebel XTI< Nikon D80< Rebel XSI < Nikon D90 <Canon 50D (which is where my knowledge leaves off).

#45 by jjohnsen
2009-03-09 23:38:36
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#43 by Shadarr
I've been Nikon ever since I upgraded from my old Pentax K1000.  The only annoying thing was that niether the film camera I had nor my new D80 has a flash sync cable plug, so I had to get a hotshoe adapter.  But that's a pretty minor annoyance.  The D80 has a great interface, very quick to set up shots once you're used to the two wheels.

You'll run into this problem with the Rebel's as well.  Luckily the adapter is cheap.

#46 by OwenButler
2009-03-09 23:57:29
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
I had a brief play of a buddies 5dmkII a while ago.  Felt extremly nifty in hand.  I have been sorely tempted to save up and get one, but considering how much I have to learn with my current camera, I've come to my senses.  I figure if I want to save/spend that kind of money on photography gear, it will be on lenses instead.

#47 by jjohnsen
2009-03-10 01:02:25
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I'd like to movie up to the 50D just because I hate how my images look at higher ISO, and that's been improved in the 50D.  Other than that I'd be fine using money on nothing but lenses.

#48 by Milan Brezovský
2009-03-10 07:59:52
http://uglycode.com
Thanks, guys! Very helpful.
#49 by G-Man
2009-03-10 08:29:31
Jamie: I assume that this was the macro that Dethstryk was referring to. Only the first result on a google search for "converting relative references to absolute." Less complicated looking macro here as well.
#50 by Milan Brezovský
2009-03-10 08:37:55
http://uglycode.com
Duh. Everybody knows your google is fine-tuned to the super-stalking mode.
#51 by Jamie
2009-03-10 15:05:46
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
You are my Google, G-Man. I always assumed that's what the "G" stood for, in fact. Thanks!

I actually saw that first macro after a Google search myself, but it's all big and scary looking and looked like too much for my delicate girl hands. The second one looks more my speed.

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#52 by Matt Perkins
2009-03-10 16:59:43
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
yeah, pics would be horrible in this thread. Just horrible.

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#53 by jshj
2009-03-11 05:44:34
#26 by Jamie
I love my f/1.4 50mm prime. It stays on my camera most of the time.


Is there any noticeable difference between the f/1.4 and the f/1.9 50mm? There's such a huge price difference.
#54 by deadlock
2009-03-11 13:11:19
http://www.deadlocked.org/
The depth of field at its lowest aperture will be much shallower on the f/1.4; it'll also allow you to use faster shutter speeds in lower light conditions. Really it depends on how much you value those things whether or not the price difference is worth it. If you're mainly shooting outdoors then there's probably not much point.

#55 by gaggle
2009-03-11 14:46:54
Terrific TED talk.

"Common sense; it is so rare, it is a god damn superpower."
#56 by Jamie
2009-03-11 15:24:20
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
#53 by jshj

Is there any noticeable difference between the f/1.4 and the f/1.9 50mm? There's such a huge price difference.

Yes, lots. I bought the f/1.9 first since it was like $50. It's still a fantastic value at that price (hence the nickname "the thrifty fifty"), but you can tell it's cheap relative not nicer lenses. More plastic, lighter (I assume because of the plastic and fewer optics), and the auto focus speed is S-L-O-W.

After reading a bunch of glowing reviews I splurged on the f/1.4. The auto focus speed and image quality are WAY, WAY better. I was really shocked by how much sharper the images are and how much better the colors look. I actually very rarely use it opened all the way to 1.4, but the IQ and auto focus speed made it worth it to me.

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"It was a little hard to tell how bad I was bleeding on account of the salsa" -- Jibble
#57 by CheesyPoof
2009-03-11 16:23:20
#53 by jshj
Is there any noticeable difference between the f/1.4 and the f/1.9 50mm? There's such a huge price difference.

So we have a new lurker. Bill Powers and jh0, you better step up your game.

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#58 by m0nty
2009-03-11 16:37:23
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Lurk harder!
#59 by jjohnsen
2009-03-11 16:57:45
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#56 by Jamie
Yes, lots. I bought the f/1.9 first since it was like $50. It's still a fantastic value at that price (hence the nickname "the thrifty fifty"), but you can tell it's cheap relative not nicer lenses. More plastic, lighter (I assume because of the plastic and fewer optics), and the auto focus speed is S-L-O-W.

Actually, jshj has the Nikon version, it's much more impressive looking than my Canon 50mm and feels a bit heavier (possibly sturdier?).  Isn't it metal Josh?


#57 by CheesyPoof
#53 by jshj

Is there any noticeable difference between the f/1.4 and the f/1.9 50mm? There's such a huge price difference.

So we have a new lurker. Bill Powers and jh0, you better step up your game.

That dude isn't new, he's been lurking forever.   If I talk about having sex with his sister-in-law he may get embarrassed and go back to lurking.  The photo thread must have drawn him out because he's a big photography fan.

#60 by jjohnsen
2009-03-11 16:59:55
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Does anyone know if the new Facebook changes will let you do anything practical with friends lists?  I really want   a way to add PC nicknames to people.  I have no idea who some of you are, just that you're friends with other crappers.

#61 by TreeFrog
2009-03-11 17:14:10
I'm TreeFrog. Hi.

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