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Duke Nukem 4 Never?
May 16th 2009, 20:04 MSD by OmegaFoRCe According to Shacknews (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58519) 3D Realms is officially closing doors. What can we learn from 3D Realms' departure from the industry? |
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Who is Paul supposed to be again? Paul Steed or something? I mean he's got a low UID, but I honestly don't remember ever seeing the guy post before. |
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You never talk about yourself Jon. What have you been up to? BUYBUYBUY
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Busy working etc. GF is out of town so I'm catching up on some gaming. Playing through Mass Effect and Bioshock. |
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Paul is a programmer in the industry and a PC old-timer. Shame on you G-Man for not remembering that. |
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Wait, does this mean Apogee is shutting down too? Ｔｈａｔ＇ｓ ｏｎｅ ｏｆ ｔｈｅ ｏｌｄｅｓｔ ｐｉｅｃｅｓ ｏｆ ＰＣ ｇａｍｅ ｈｉｓｔｏｒｙ ｇｏｉｎｇ ａｗａｙ． Ｎｏｔ ｔｈａｔ ｔｈｅ ｂｒａｎｄ ｗａｓ ａｃｔｉｖｅｌｙ ｕｓｅｄ ａｎｙｍｏｒｅ， ｂｕｔ ｓｔｉｌｌ． "IT consultant of perfect lovemaking art."
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Ｃｈｉｎｅｓｅ ｃｏｍｐｕｔｅｒｓ ｓｕｃｋ． "IT consultant of perfect lovemaking art."
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Crazy foreigners and their Unicode. "Can we get to the part where everybody is Kung Fu fighting?" - wingwalker
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Now I get it, when you press shift-space it switches to weirdo mode. 我爱你 我是从何兰来了 "IT consultant of perfect lovemaking art."
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玩安 "IT consultant of perfect lovemaking art."
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Oh 我爱你 you. |
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֢הץЖ㊧パ you too. REMEMbER DESCENT THE HIGHEST FORM of PATRIOTiC
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#18 by G-Man Playing through Mass Effect and Bioshock. Mass Effect is boring. Haven't fired it up in a month. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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I'm also trying to learn Japanese via the DS game. Been playing it for an hour a day for the past few months but it is slow going. I'm on lesson 46 or so now but the game has a lot of flaws and I feel like I really don't have mastery over a lot of basic concepts so I probably need a traditional book with some exercises to do to supplement the game. |
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Mass Effect was great. Cheesy has no taste. Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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Mass Effect sucked. Chunkstyle has not taste. |
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Mass Effect was OK, from the 15 minutes that I played. My tongue's nerves work OK. |
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#30 by Squeaky Mass Effect sucked. Chunkstyle has not taste. Well, you fucking hate almost everything, so you're really in no position to comment one way or another. "THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
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#32 by Ergo #30 by Squeaky Mass Effect sucked. Chunkstyle has not taste. Well, you fucking hate almost everything, so you're really in no position to comment one way or another. I don't hate almost everything. I only hate you. |
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Mass Effect was great. "Bioshock, sadly, is no Painkiller." - BobJustBob
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TF2 Spy video. Brilliant. Don't know if its old or new, but I hadn't seen it before. My love for Valve grows. |
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Mass Effect was (for the most part) great. Let's meet up, Chunkstyle, we've just arrived to our room in Chicago, Division st. Staying for 2 full days, heading back to AL on Wed. "assemblerer is like the dorkier male version of ryslin. His posts make my head hurt." -- Mister Nutty
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Mass Effect was a great story and presentation wrapped in a mediocre game. No.
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Not the version I played. The game was quite good. "THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
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#33 by Squeaky [quote I don't hate almost everything. I only hate you. Pfft. Get in line, n00b. "THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
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URK "THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
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The Infiltrator is a tech-savvy warrior, able to win battles by quickly disabling and killing enemies. These soldiers focus on unlocking alternate routes, gaining access to good equipment, and obtaining an advantageous position over enemies in combat 1) Tech-savvy warrior: yes, this is true. You can do damage and debuffs. 2) Win battles quickly: not so much 3) Focus on unlocking alternate routes: This is the biggest joke so far. There aren't any alternate routes. 4) Gaining access to good equipment: Doesn't seem like it. I have to use pistols in a majority of combat as I get ganked to quickly with sniper rifles (arguably good). 5) Advantageous position over enemies: See #3. This class sounded like a cool one to play but it's the most boring one. I made the mistake of reading the class descriptions and trying to have fun. Also, hacking mini-game is a QTE. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Mass Effect was quite gripping. REMEMbER DESCENT THE HIGHEST FORM of PATRIOTiC
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Saints Row continues to please. I came across a random activity and started it up to find myself sitting on a 4 wheeler...on fire. After spending half an hour ramming things and lighting them on fire, I took a moment to reflect on fuck you, Rockstar. |
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The worst part of ME was driving/climbing side quests (the driving/shooting itself wasn't that bad). Cheesy, I think the (4) was supposed to mean "can hack into equipment caches". I used some combo engineer/hacker/psychic class, I think, maybe actually the one that you mentioned, and I liked it. Ultimate pistols and sniper guns were awesome, EMP "spells" were pretty useful, too. "assemblerer is like the dorkier male version of ryslin. His posts make my head hurt." -- Mister Nutty
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TF2 Spy video. Brilliant. Don't know if its old or new, but I hadn't seen it before. My love for Valve grows. Brand new, released with the combined Sniper and Spy Updates. |
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/me awaits the Hellchick skin for TF2 |
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Best band name I have heard today: I voted for Kodos. REMEMbER DESCENT THE HIGHEST FORM of PATRIOTiC
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When is the soldier update coming? Fuckers are probably leaving that for last. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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#37 by Charles Mass Effect was a great story and presentation wrapped in a mediocre game. Yes. Played Plants vs. Zombies or Rock Band 2 this weekend, depending on whether my wife wanted to use the computer or the TV. Gaming diversification FTW! Rock Band 2 is interesting for me. On the one hand, I'm still getting better at it the more I play. My hand now reflexively slide into place when green or orange notes come up, and I don't even think about it. And the HO/PO largely happen without my thinking about it. And of course I got all the 2-note chord combinations down to reflex level by now. So that's good. On the other hand, it's clear I have no native talent with this game and the progression is slow. I still can't go halfway down the set list (sorted by difficulty) without hitting a brick wall on Hard. Some stuff just seems like my brain flat out can't grip it. For example, for the life of me I can't pass Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac because of that rapid series of B+O, O notes. My brain just can't figure out how to tell my fingers to hit those for some reason. Anyway, as long as they keep pumping out the DLC I guess I'll have enough mid-difficulty stuff to choose from. But I would pay $60 right now for a new Rock Band game that let me rate songs (so they could be weighted in random sets) and save set lists. |
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ME is basically just an adventure game ala Indigo Prophecy. More interactive movie than game really. |
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No, it isn't. Wrong again. "THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
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For me it was an action game. I loved that the game respected my lack of interest in its RPG elements and allowed me to just mostly run and gun. Pretty awesome in that respect, difficult to dislike a game that shapes itself to your needs. |
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#52 by gaggle Pretty awesome in that respect, difficult to dislike a game that shapes itself to your needs. It's not shaping itself to my needs!! <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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When your needs involve a clown, a hamster, and a half-gallon of astroglide, I can see why. REMEMbER DESCENT THE HIGHEST FORM of PATRIOTiC
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ME is a good game in which presentation and awesomeness carry it over the top to gaming greatness. Sure, it has some flaws, but it's damn fun and interesting. And maybe they decided having a thousand generic worlds to explore wasn't as useful in the second one... "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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#11 by Paul Don't put too much credence in Derek Smart's legal analysis stated in his posts. Especially since he flat out gets some things wrong. He says Take2 offered to buy the Duke IP for $30 million, when what actually happened was they offered to sell back the publishing rights for $30 million. "I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
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Derek doesn't seem very smart to me. "assemblerer is like the dorkier male version of ryslin. His posts make my head hurt." -- Mister Nutty
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DNF going down the tubes is worth a post just for old time's sake. <honk> Hey everybody! |
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this doesn't seem right to me Wasn't scott on here talking about how much money they were getting from take two, and how great a deal it was for them? Also, WHY WON'T THEY DIE??? "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble |
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Scott Miller full of shit? How could it be? "Bioshock, sadly, is no Painkiller." - BobJustBob
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Wasn't scott on here talking about how much money they were getting from take two, and how great a deal it was for them? Quick, to the CrapSifter!! We need to find these posts. Or at least, someone with some time on their hands does. When you've been sued, aren't you pretty much supposed to shut your mouth? Their lawyers must be having a fit. It has to be a sea of high-priced facepalms right now. |
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The studio did confirm that the DNF team has been let go, but expressed a desire to "co-create" games based on the character in the future. Bahahah! So they just nuked their dev team so they didn't actually ever have to produce something. Nice. No.
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Caryn, start here. It's good for laughs. 52 Weeks and Something's On Movie Blog
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My favorite Scott Miller quote: When people say something like this, they so clearly do not understand marketing at all, especially the principles of positioning. No character can ever topple Duke as the leading WASP action hero, just as no character will ever topple Lara Croft as the leading female action/adventurer. Think of these characters as the Coke and Pepsi of the game industry. These characters earned their leading spots by being the first of their kind, and by being great at what they do. Much like James Bond, who is the quintessential action spy -- there have many many attempts to top Bond but it will never be done, as he was the first and the first practically always wins (unless they self-destruct, but that's another story). Duke and Lara will be around 20 years from now, still the leading action gaming characters of their type. He wrote this in 2002. 52 Weeks and Something's On Movie Blog
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Here's another bit of comedy gold: I'm sure you know a game wins. Most hit movies cost $40 plus million, and often much higher, so the studio is in a big hole to begin with. DNF will cost $5 million tops to make on all platforms, and make the publisher at least $200 million gross across all platforms. So right away the game has a huge advantage. So based on LP's linked article, Scott was only off by $15 million dollars. 52 Weeks and Something's On Movie Blog
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